Session Start: Sat Oct 17 21:44:06 2009
Session Ident: Bluff
01[21:44] random
[21:44] random girl
01[21:44] not really.
[21:44] u mean u act really randomly?
01[21:45] at times.
[21:45] hahaha!
01[21:45] :P
[21:45] don't we all do that?
[21:45] i mean, act randomly
01[21:46] we do but the level of randomness vary.
01[21:46] some follow plans.
01[21:46] that aint random.
[21:46] well, that's the way of the world
01[21:46] hmmm.
[21:47] u cannot have a plan for everything
01[21:47] yeah yeah.
[21:47] in battles, not all things go according to plans
01[21:48] of course.
[21:48] great intro, wouldnt u sa?
[21:48] *say
[21:49] hehehe
01[21:49] not really.
01[21:49] common thing for me. :P
[21:49] this should be interesting
[21:49] before we kick things off, may i have ur asl
01[21:50] LOL
01[21:50] you are a generic chatter, after all.
01[21:50] :P
[21:50] generic chatter?
[21:50] what do u mean?
01[21:50] the asls and all.
01[21:50] hahaha
[21:50] generic = ordinary
[21:51] well, it's custom
01[21:51] aw. dont you like deviating?
[21:51] can't break away from custom that easily
01[21:51] really.
01[21:51] hahaha
[21:51] yup!
01[21:51] :)
[21:52] just humor me this time
[21:52] asl plz
01[21:52] LOL
01[21:52] im from davao.
01[21:52] too far from wherever youa re, im sure.
[21:52] well, you really are far
[21:53] but it's the chatting that matters
01[21:53] well, yeah.
[21:53] ika nga ng globe: Posible
01[21:53] aw.
[21:53] "Sa Globe, Posible"
01[21:53] im not using globe bropadband. :P
01[21:54] broadband*
[21:54] that was their catchphrase, ryt?
01[21:54] i know.
01[21:54] hahay
[21:54] i'm not using globe
01[21:54] LOL
01[21:54] i dont know what's your isp.
01[21:54] is it pldt?
[21:54] what local utility company offers DSL service in ur part of the woods
01[21:54] pldt and bayantel.
[21:54] nope
01[21:55] sun?
[21:55] it's bayantel
01[21:55] i see.
01[21:55] they said taht the speed is really good.
[21:55] sometimes
[21:55] problem is the connection gets flaky, especially during the afternoons
01[21:55] hahaha.
01[21:55] oh
01[21:56] why do you think is that so?
[21:56] that's why i stop my downloads during the afternoons
[21:56] i'm not really sure why
01[21:56] poor you.
01[21:56] cant multitask due to poor connections.
[21:56] perhaps it's got something to do with the transmission lines
01[21:57] maybe maybe.
[21:57] or the bandwidth allocated in our area
[21:57] but during the nightm the speed is above average
01[21:57] cool.
01[21:58] so, where are you at?
[21:58] i can finish downloads if i leave my PC on during the night
[21:58] i'm in valenzuela
01[21:58] i see.
[21:58] northern metro manila
01[21:58] almost outside mm.
01[21:58] yeah yeah.
01[21:58] just a small city
[21:58] not outside mm
[21:58] it's inside mm
01[21:58] almost**
[21:59] sorry
01[21:59] :)
[21:59] i reacted in haste
01[21:59] that randomness!
01[21:59] :))
01[21:59] that's*
[21:59] it will not happen, mother superior
[21:59] it will not happen again, mother superior
01[21:59] bwahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahha
01[21:59] am i like miss minchin?
[22:00] miss minchin of princess sarah?
01[22:00] yes.
[22:00] not really sure
01[22:00] hahahaha
01[22:00] be sure, then. :))
[22:00] cant remember her
01[22:00] awts.
01[22:00] bot your cup of tea, i guess.
01[22:00] not*
[22:00] but i used to cry watching that cartoon series
01[22:01] *me too*
01[22:01] *i liked it very much*
[22:01] and cedie
01[22:01] wahahaha.
01[22:01] how about remy?
[22:01] and the "dog of flanders"
01[22:01] yes yes!
[22:02] havent seen remy
01[22:02] i guess we are ffrom the same generation.
[22:02] i mean i was always in school
01[22:02] hahaha
01[22:02] hahaha.
01[22:02] i was in school too.
[22:02] how old are u anyway?
01[22:02] just the replays and all.
01[22:02] 20.
[22:02] the answer will detemine it
01[22:02] haha
01[22:02] are we in?
[22:02] 20 ka dyan?
01[22:03] SERIOUSLY.
[22:03] i was in elementary when dog of flanders was aired
01[22:03] waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
01[22:03] you are a ncient.
01[22:03] ancient.
01[22:03] joke.
01[22:03] hahahaha
[22:03] ancient??
[22:03] i'm 26
01[22:03] somehow.
01[22:03] i call people pass 25 ancient dudes.
01[22:04] lol
[22:04] that sould settle all questions about the age
[22:04] well, then u're the padawan
[22:04] apprentice
[22:04] APPRENTICE
01[22:04] yeah.
01[22:04] yes boss.
01[22:04] sorry po, uncle. :))
[22:05] i just got hurt there
[22:05] gotta get a plaster
[22:05] have to put a plaster in my aching chest
01[22:06] come here, i'll stab it more so that you won't have a problem in placing a plaster on it anymore. bwahahaha
01[22:06] :P
01[22:06] so, how's been your day?
01[22:06] is ramil there yet?
[22:06] ramil?
01[22:06] is it ramil or ramel?
[22:06] who's he?
01[22:06] the new typhoon
01[22:06] hmmmm.
[22:07] i dont know and i dont care
01[22:07] even if you'll be flooded????!!!!
[22:07] as long as he doesnt go thru our place
01[22:07] he will, the pag-asa people said..
[22:07] we just got flooded 3 weeks back
01[22:07] im sorry to hear that
[22:08] it's OK as long as the dams let the water flow gradually
01[22:08] hmmm.
01[22:08] okay.
01[22:08] i dont have control over those matters.
[22:09] what happened was that those damn dams (pun intended) let out the water all at the same time
01[22:10] i thought that was inclusive to pangasinan's case?
[22:10] that's why the amount of water that flowed got doubled
01[22:10] i see.
[22:10] nope!
01[22:10] thanks for telling me.
[22:10] we got hit by Ondoy
01[22:10] i know.
[22:10] pangasinan got hit ny pepeng
01[22:11] i thought the flooding was solely dependent to the amount of rainfall, not to the dam whatever thing
[22:11] what happened with Ondoy was exactly the same as to what happened with Pepeng
01[22:11] waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
01[22:11] isnt our govt system stupid?
01[22:11] LOL
[22:11] meaning the damn fam officials (again, pun intended) did not act logically
01[22:12] :)
01[22:12] chill.
[22:13] if u knew that the typhoon would bring that much rain, would u keep the dams filled up, only to release the water at the same time as to when the other dams would be doing the same thing?
[22:13] come on!
[22:13] they should have just let the water flow in the first place
[22:14] that way there wouldnt have been a sudden rise in flood water
01[22:15] it's too late though, the damage for the illogical decision has been done
01[22:15] so chill.
01[22:15] just be positive
01[22:15] Thank God you're still breathing. :)
[22:16] i hope their houses get wiped out from the face of the earth
01[22:16] T_T
01[22:16] vengeance is never yours.
01[22:16] oh well.
01[22:16] too morbid a topic.
[22:16] what else can the people do but go on with their lives?
01[22:16] hahahaha
01[22:17] yeah yeah.
[22:17] but if those officials just acted in a logical manner, the amount of destruction should have been lesser
[22:17] too morbid, i agree
01[22:18] hmmm.
[22:19] anything else u want to talk about?
01[22:19] anything you like but that. *point upwards*
01[22:19] :)
[22:20] well, bring up a topic that u want to talk about
01[22:20] why me?
01[22:20] *thinking*
01[22:20] i cant think of anything.
01[22:20] hahahaha
[22:20] bcoz i have to catch my breath
[22:20] all that ranting sucked the air out of me
01[22:21] waaaaaaaaaa.
01[22:21] *okay, ill give you 5 minutes to think.*
01[22:21] ;)
[22:21] what's with the waaaaa?
[22:21] besides, u're younger than i am, so your brain cells are not that withered yet
01[22:21] i just got carried away. :)
01[22:22] you really think so?
01[22:22] i think every semester, 10% of my neurons die!
[22:22] not really
[22:22] since u're still in college, u're more active
01[22:22] LOL
01[22:23] WHY DONT YOU JUST THINK OF A TOPIC.
01[22:23] wahahahahaha
[22:23] whereas when u're working, u're brain starts to go into a catatonic state
01[22:23] hahahaha.
01[22:23] so, what field are you into?
[22:23] IT
01[22:24] ohh.
[22:24] yup
01[22:24] im dumb in it stuff.
[22:25] that can be remedied
[22:25] use the computer often and u'll be an expert in no time
01[22:26] i use it everyday.
01[22:26] hahaha
01[22:26] and i love ip tracing. :))
[22:26] IP tracong?
[22:26] IP tracing?
01[22:26] yeah.
[22:26] what do u mean with that?
01[22:27] i trace internet protocols.
[22:27] i have to say that i'm really good with networking
01[22:27] walang magawa eh.
01[22:27] well, good for you.
[22:27] what do u mean with tracing internet protocols?
[22:28] please do enlighten me
01[22:28] nevermind.
01[22:28] just location targeting.
01[22:28] your isp and all.
[22:28] location targeting ng alin?
[22:28] how do u do that?
[22:28] share naman dyan
01[22:28] if i have your ip address, i look for your exact location in the globe or whatsoever.
01[22:28] secret.
01[22:28] :))
01[22:28] secret namin ng lolo ko yun.
01[22:28] bwhahahaha
01[22:29] try hacking some cafes.
01[22:29] LOL
[22:29] paano?
[22:29] how do u do it?
01[22:29] diba IT specialist ka.
01[22:29] hahaha
01[22:30] figure it out.
01[22:30] :))
[22:30] pero small networks lang
[22:30] not that hacking stuff
01[22:30] laro lang naman yun..
01[22:30] and we dont totally revert their connection.
01[22:30] mahuli pa lang kami.
01[22:31] hahaha
[22:31] i'll tell u some stuff, tell me if i'm correct, ok?
01[22:31] okay..
01[22:31] you might be doing another process..
01[22:31] im not good at it, beieve me.
01[22:31] i just know,not an expert.
01[22:31] :)
[22:32] is it possible to hack a PC that's behind a firewall router and who's modem uses dynamic IP addresses from it's ISP?
[22:33] take note that the modem uses NAT
01[22:33] we havent tried a dynamic ip.
01[22:33] coffee shops uses static.
[22:33] so u only use static IP
01[22:33] let me ask some friends some other time.
01[22:33] yeah.
01[22:34] poor us.
[22:34] another guess
01[22:34] huh?
[22:34] if you know someone's static IP, u can trace the location using tracert, right?
01[22:35] yes.
[22:35] and the IP addresses given to ISPs are categorized by country, right?
01[22:35] and cities.
[22:36] so, if you know the static IP, then u know where in the world it is being used, and what city
[22:37] right?
01[22:37] yes.
01[22:37] something like that.
[22:37] but do u exactly know where in the city?
[22:38] i mean, the exact block where the computer shop is in?
[22:38] or the exact street address?
01[22:38] it depends.
[22:38] on what conditions?
01[22:38] there are ips which have their complete addresses posted.
01[22:38] others dont.
01[22:39] dependent on isps at times.
[22:40] and if u know their static IP, can you access their networks at all?
01[22:41] i didnt try.
01[22:41] my friend tried.
01[22:41] when we were in a copffee shop.
01[22:41] nawalan sila ng connection.
[22:41] what is it that you can do?
01[22:41] NOTHING. :p
01[22:41] just tinker on matters.
01[22:41] LOL
[22:41] aside from taking away the connection momentarily?
[22:42] and how do u even disrupt the connection?
01[22:42] *please read above*
[22:42] well, u have to have an idea as to what happened
01[22:43] there's always the enable disable sign in the main page and the server cant access taht anymore once blocked by an oputsider.
01[22:43] outsider.
[22:44] main page of what?
[22:44] and u mentioned a server. is that the computer shop;s server u're referring to?
01[22:44] hahay.
01[22:44] opo boss.
01[22:45] i told you it was just simple things.
[22:45] u said there's an "Enable/Disable sign" on the main page. Main page of what?
01[22:46] hahahahaha.
01[22:47] i dont know the name but it's opened when you paste the ip add on the browser and it opened.
01[22:47] tested only in wifi zones.
[22:47] do u mean the GUI of a router?
01[22:48] maybe soo.
01[22:48] the interface whatever?
01[22:48] i dont know the name.
01[22:49] i'll study on it. :|
01[22:49] after i finish my degree.
01[22:49] lol
[22:49] so what u do is get the static IP that he shop uses, copy it using htp://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, then u get a web page
[22:50] am i right, so far?
01[22:50] a web page?
[22:51] yes, a web page
01[22:51] a web page for?
[22:52] a GUI that looks like a web page
01[22:52] graphical unit interface.
01[22:52] is that unit?
[22:52] yes
01[22:52] not sure.
01[22:52] ahhh.
01[22:52] oaky.
[22:53] so, when u see the GUI, what does it say?
[22:53] what does it normally contain, based in what u've seen?
[22:55] were u asked for login credentials?
[22:55] like a username and a password?
01[22:55] a password.
01[22:55] their password.
01[22:55] just the same password to avail the net.
[22:56] the shop's password then?
01[22:57] yes.
[22:57] u mean to say that the shop uses the same password even for the router?
01[22:57] in tne many times that we tried it, it worked.
[22:57] not really secure then
01[22:58] yeah.
01[22:58] jollibee doesnt even change their password.
01[22:58] lol
[23:00] so, aside from accessing the router's GUI via the WAN IP Address, have you also tried accessing the same GUI via its Local IP address?
01[23:00] no.
01[23:00] i dont plans anymore.
01[23:00] lol
[23:01] actuall, what u've been doing, accessing the GUI via the WAN IP is more difficult compared to just using the Local IP.
01[23:02] *im so stressed with the topic. it feels like im a comsci student undergoing the thesis proposal defense*
[23:03] and one more thing, if the router uses DynDNS, u can access its GUI even if it uses Dynamic IP.
[23:03] that is if the router is using Dynamic DNS
01[23:03] oh. thanks for the tip.
[23:04] do u want to know the idea behind Dynamic DNS?
01[23:04] honestly, no.
01[23:04] HAHAHAHA
01[23:05] di naman it related ang course ko eh.
01[23:05] i just knew those things because friends happened to teach me.
[23:06] but the thing is how you get the public IP addresses in the first place
[23:06] how do u do it then?
01[23:06] hahahahaha.
01[23:06] ewan ko.
01[23:06] :P
[23:07] sandali lang
[23:07] i'll try something
01[23:07] okay.
[23:07] yup
01[23:08] yup???
[23:09] u can get the WAN IP if u use tracert
01[23:09] hmmmm
[23:09] and if it's a computer shop, then that address will not change at all
01[23:10] yeah.
[23:11] i'll try something else
01[23:11] go.
01[23:11] hahay.
01[23:11] naubos ang energy ko.
[23:12] i'm trying something here
01[23:12] :))
[23:13] altough i havent been able to access my modem's GUI using its current WAN IP
[23:13] let me check
[23:13] take a breather first
01[23:13] LOL
[23:15] can't access my modem's GUI using the WAN IP
01[23:15] :P
[23:15] i dont know why
[23:16] care to give a few theories?
01[23:16] i cant theorize. :)
[23:17] give it a shot
[23:17] i know u can do it
01[23:17] nah.
01[23:17] *too tired*
[23:17] come on
[23:17] go get a banana to reenergize urself
01[23:17] why not chocolates?
01[23:17] lol
01[23:17] hahay.
01[23:18] boss, ayoko na mag-isip ng mga bagay na related sa it.
01[23:18] period.
01[23:18] change topic.
01[23:18] lol
[23:19] alam mo bossing, IT is all around u
[23:19] better love with it
[23:19] hehehe
01[23:20] i dont care.
[23:20] ano pala major mo?
01[23:20] agribusiness economics.
01[23:20] napakalapit.
[23:21] aba! napakalapit nga
01[23:21] oo nga.
[23:21] palay tsaka routers really do mix together
01[23:21] they have to mis, later on. lol
01[23:21] mix*
[23:22] well, i always thought that real economic progress is in the land, not in the condos
01[23:22] who said it's in the condos?
01[23:23] would you mind if i ask you which school you went into?
[23:23] well, the businessmen do
[23:23] TUP-Mla
01[23:23] which kind of businessmen? hahahaha
01[23:24] i see.
[23:24] those that reside here in manila
01[23:24] aw.
01[23:24] sure?
01[23:24] hahaha
[23:24] notice that the farmlands are getting lesser and lesser
01[23:24] i know of someone who lives in makati who thinks otherwise.
01[23:24] lol
[23:24] why, u ask?
01[23:24] ask about?
01[23:24] being sure?
01[23:25] on the businessmen?
[23:25] subdivisions and condos
[23:25] but u see, i dont agree with them
01[23:25] well, because you believe that we are and must be an agricultural country.
01[23:25] ayt?
[23:25] it's better to invest on agriculture instead of building skyscrapers
01[23:26] it could be best if if investments are balanced.
[23:27] well, balance will not hurt
01[23:27] hmmm.
[23:29] but dont u think it's better to invest in agriculture and food security than keeping on building condos that not all people can purchase?
01[23:30] it's better but investments on real estate are usually private funded. agriculture, however, greatly depends on government spending.
[23:30] people can always in less expensive homes
[23:30] but we all have to eat
01[23:31] not a lot of "private companies" invest in agri unless they produce cash crops.
[23:31] hhmmmm
[23:31] u have a point there
[23:31] but do they have to keep on accumulating farmlands and turn them into concrete jungles?
01[23:32] firstly, if you want us to be competitive in global agriculture, you should insist to the govt to lessen imports and provide subsidies to small scale farmers.
01[23:32] not all farm lands can be coverted.
[23:32] my point also
01[23:32] actually, there are certain sections in the consti that prohibit the c onversion.
[23:34] as an economist, can u explain why the govt keeps on depending on imports as compared to promoting self-sustenance?
01[23:34] it's cheaper.
01[23:34] *a hidden agendum could be corruption*
01[23:35] bwahahahahahahahah
[23:35] not all farmlands can be converted? I know that forests are also excluded
01[23:35] are you referring to the subic case?
01[23:35] hahaha
01[23:35] it was the LGUs fault.
[23:35] exactly
01[23:35] their complacency.
01[23:36] maybe they didnt know articles in the consti regarding the matter existed.
01[23:36] hahaha
[23:36] u pinpointed something earlier
[23:36] corruption
01[23:36] like?
01[23:36] aw.
01[23:37] that's a generic topic in our cuntry.
01[23:37] country*
[23:37] everyone knows that a lot of govt officials are corrupt
01[23:37] filipino govt officials tend to be greedy.
01[23:37] hahaha
[23:37] but het me ask u this
01[23:37] yes.
[23:37] are we as a people also corrupt?
01[23:38] ask yourself that.
01[23:38] depends.
[23:38] have we also been tainted with corruption?
[23:38] or are we just too forgiving and passive?
01[23:38] in our own little ways but not necessarily on the govt funds, per se.
01[23:39] we have developed to be apathetic, i guess.
01[23:39] tsk tsk.
[23:39] i think "apathy" summarizes it all
01[23:40] hahay.
01[23:40] yeah.
01[23:40] --------------------stressful---------------------------
[23:40] yes, it's stressful talking about something like is
[23:41] *this
01[23:41] *my wrinkles are more evident*
[23:41] but i guess we'll have to face the problem sooner or later
[23:42] it's inevitable
01[23:42] ill close my eyes. bwahahahaha. and be numb.
[23:42] sure
[23:42] i'll just be here
[23:42] waiting
01[23:42] eh?
[23:43] u said u were gonna rest for a while
01[23:43] aieeeeeeeeeee.
01[23:43] ano ba boss.
[23:43] ay!
01[23:43] that pertained to the facing the problem thingy.
01[23:43] :P
[23:43] wrong interpretation pala
01[23:43] keri lang yan.
01[23:43] go on.
[23:44] napagod din ako
[23:44] i'll have to rest for a while
01[23:44] *appear*
[23:44] break muna
01[23:44] okay. good night.
01[23:44] tsar.
01[23:44] break lang pala.
01[23:44] hahaha
01[23:44] ako ay matutulog na.
[23:44] break lang noh
01[23:44] maaga pa ang aming mass bukas.
01[23:44] well, adieu!
01[23:44] see you around.
01[23:44] :)
[23:44] ay!
[23:45] o cge
[23:45] next time na lang
01[23:45] paalam.
01[23:45] *waving*
[23:45] ciao!
01[23:45] *bow*
01[23:45] hahaha
[23:45] good night
01[23:46] katulog na ug sayo. para sayo sad ka ugma. haha
01[23:46] :P
[23:46] didn't undertand that
01[23:46] it was intended for you not to understand.
01[23:46] :))
01[23:47] sige na uy.
01[23:47] matulog na ko.
01[23:47] ayo ayo.:)
01[23:47] let someone translate that for you.
[23:47] ciao!
[23:47] naahhhh
01[23:47] haha.
01[23:47] antamad.
01[23:48] will it be fine if i post this convie in my blog?
01[23:48] hahaha
[23:48] if i cant understand it now........
[23:48] sure thing
01[23:48] oh.
[23:48] post it anywhere
01[23:48] buti ka pa.
01[23:48] :))
01[23:48] okay.
01[23:48] my friends will react on this, surely.
01[23:48] haha
[23:48] just tag me as a disgruntled flood victim
[23:49] ur blogspot please
01[23:49] no. an IT specialist who hates the person who opened the damned dam.
01[23:49] secret. :P
[23:49] i'm not a specialist, u know
01[23:49] it's okay.
[23:49] as i said, i just work with small networks
01[23:49] they wouldn't know.
01[23:49] bwahahahaha
01[23:50] o diba.
01[23:50] paalam na talaga.
[23:50] sure, bye!
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